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WEBMISTRESS speculates:
Stevie is, pretty obviously, speaking about having a clandestine affair with a man who is otherwise "taken." Of course this man doesn't want it to get out, but Stevie has a feeling it will. And that's all I'm gonna say about that!
RENEE speculates:
I wonder if this is about Tom? Supposedly it was rumoured that they got together while he was still married to Jane, but I don't know if that's true or not. Of course, you could also look at this song as written for someone that Stevie is close to and she's giving the advice to that person. Stevie has written on this topic before with Imperial Hotel (which I love) and also Kind of Woman.
RUISRYAN speculates:
I read in an article recently that Stevie and Lindsey and Lindsey's wife Kristin all get along very well. That they even went to Hawaii together after Say You Will was finished. I think it might be posted over on Tracy's site, www.burnish.net, but Im not positive about that. Anyway, according to the both of them, Stevie enjoys spending time with the Buckingham family, including the children. I think Lindsey described it as 'an intresting dynamic to have' speaking about his ex, and his wife. If this is all true I think this song might be about what everyone will think is going on when they find out. Just imagine all the 'love triangle' refernces that will be spreading like wild fire. I think this is Stevie's way of addressing all of the negative ideas that may come from this song as well as what I just described. The truth is probably more like Lindsey said in the article mentioned above, that he and Stevie were so close for so long, its almost as if she is an honorary Buckingham, and included in his family.
JACQUIE speculates:
I agree with (you) the Webmistress, this song is about having a clandestine affair. Renee wonders if it is Tom Petty and Ruisry points to a possible trio with the Buckinghams, I however think that it just may be a look back at Don Henley. Don was the man that showed Stevie what the "Rock & Roll Lifestyle" was all about. She admits to catching "a midnight plane" to see him. Even though this song has a 2003 copywrite on it, it does not mean that she did not write it when the "affair" was active. What was true then may not be the case now. Whatever that case may be, the circumstance makes for a fantastic song.
SPARKTIVITIE speculates:
The first time i heard this song i said she had to have written this
about Mick Fleetwood, and the affair they had. The whole concept of the song just seems to sum up their relationship;they kept it secret for quite sometime but they knew eventually everyone would find out about it. the lyric from this song,"She rarley goes out she spends everyday waiting for the day when everybody finds out." is somewhat similar to the lyric from Sara,"I'd stay home at night all the time i'd go anywhere anywhere ask me and im there cuz i care." I just think this shows the similarity between the writtings because she did admitt to writting parts of sara about Mick. I might be wrong but i really bielive she wrote it about their affair.
SHANNON speculates:
I find it interesting that no one commented on the first few lines: "We see no change in sight watching her decline. She gets on a midnight plane. She's done it a thousand times." This is about Christine saying that she would do "Say You Will" and she didn't want to tour anymore. Stevie had even said that Chris got on a late plane never to return to FM.
ANNA speculates:
I think I know what Stevie is referring to in this song. Stevie is singing about a woman's decline. This woman gets on a midnight plane, she has done it a thousand times,and she is tired. I think this woman is Christine McVie. Stevie says when love starts out in the darkness, it usually doesn't do well in the light. Affairs of the heart that start out in the dark usually stay in the night. The affair she is speaking of is the affair between Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham.
This affair is something that has been kept under wraps forever. Not a lot of light has been shed on it. It's been there for years. And in Thrown Down, Stevie says it threw a barricade on the group. I guess like Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall and all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put him back together again. She has sung about this metaphor before in songs of hers. So, this whole thing is not recent. It's historical. Think of the songs Hold Me and Think About Me and Bleed To Love Her. I believe these songs were centered around Lindsey and Christine. And it's so perfectly natural for these two to have a relationship because they do have so much history together, it's just
that it does for sure hurt Stevie, and that is what she sings about in this song.See, I think Christine is saying to Stevie in this song "I know he loves me, every day he calls me, he says he adores me, what can I say?" And Stevie responds to Christine, "You can't have him, you can't love him, I do have him, most of the time." What Stevie means here is that she and Lindsey have this thing. They have a connection. They were meant to follow a path together. And this is something Chris will never have. So she tells Chris, You Can't. Stevie is quite furious in this song because it hurts her to see Lindsey and Chris steal away together anytime they can, whenever they can "get away." It's devastating to her. And that's why--the honest to God's truth--Christine had to leave the band. Sure!
I believe Chris was sick of the traveling, and the going here, there, and everywhere. I believe she wanted to go home to England. We read she has other businesses, like cooking, and art. But I also, THINK, that she had to leave because of the ongoing affair she had with Lindsey. All of this brings me back to when Stevie and Mick had their affair. They knew it would break up Fleetwood Mac. They stopped it. They ended it. Done. Over. FM survived. I am not a Christine basher. I miss her a lot. I wish she could have stayed. She was like a balm to Fleetwood Mac, she was a healer. But when Stevie says she spends every day waiting for the day....she rarely goes out...waiting for the day... when everybody finds out...don't you know? don't you know? I mean this is heavy stuff here. But I guess she figures who the hell cares, it's all over now, probably no one will figure it out, and I am tired of keeping it all inside. I WISH SHE'D WRITE HER BOOK. But anyway, that's my opinion of EFO. It's daring to post, but I believe it's the truth.
ASH speculates:
I think this song is about when Stevie, Lindsey and the rest of the band finally got together to work on the "Say You Will" album it rekindled something between them. Them meaning Stevie and Lindsey. Not anything big because Lindsey has a family now, but in a recent interview she has said he is much kinder since Will and LeeLee were born. Maybe that attracted Stevie back to Lindsey and it's always been ovious that Lindsey still has fellings for Stevie. I don't know that's what I think, but alot of you have really good points to your speculations.
SHANNON speculates:
In Stevie’s songs Everybody Finds Out, Destiny Rules, and Smile At You, the speaker is someone in a love affair with someone that is either married or involved with someone else. Example: “When love starts out in the darkness it doesn’t do well in the light. Affairs of the heart that start out in the dark usually stay with the night.” EFO “You love someone else I shouldn’t be here…. You love someone else I shouldn’t be here.” SAY, “I knew that this would be the only time that we could be alone and foolish.” DR
Could these have been written or begun during the Rumours/Tusk era when Stevie had her brief relationship with Mick? How well do we really know Stevie? If she had a relationship with one married man could there have been others? I think she has said that writing is therapeutic and she wants to share her mistakes with others so they won’t make the same mistakes. How many affairs are in the gypsy’s closet?
MAYA speculates:
Woah, I just read one speculation saying that this is about an affair between Christine and Lindsey. Though I won't be surprised to find out if it's true, better watch out. If one of them "finds out", they could sue for slander. Ok, back to the song. It is certainly dealing with an affair. I don't know which one but with the incredible mess of messed up adults we refer to as Fleetwood Mac, there are many. This is more angry than Come or Smile at you. I'm probably the only one that heard this, but the sound Mick makes with his drum kind of sounds like a slap.
HEATHER speculates:
When I first heard this song, I knew right away this was about Stevie having an affair with someone. thinking, Lindsey.
"When love starts out in the darkness
It doesn't do well in the light
Affairs of the heart
Start out in the dark
Usually stay with the night."
Here I suspect she's trying to say that when she first had an affair with Lindsey, during the Dance tour, the affair didn't do well in the light (daytime) so they kept it 'til it got dark out (the night time.) and they always did it at night, until the tour ended or Lindsey got married.
"I know he loves me
Every day he calls me
He says he adores me
What can I say?You can't love him
You can't have him
I do have him, most of the timeAnywhere we can
Anytime he can
Get away...get away."
Here, I think she's talking to Kristen (Lindsey's wife) saying that Lindsey still loves her and he always will. Everyday he calls her, or talks to her all the time on tour, and that he adores her music. What else can she say? "You can't love him, you can't have him, I do have him, most of the time." She's saying you can't love him because I love him, and you can't have him, I want him. and that she does have him, most of the time. While they're on tour having an affair while Kristen is home all alone with the kids. hehe. Next she's saying that they have the affair anywhere they can and he can, like? on tour in the hotel room. get away, like get away he's mine and always will be. you may be married to him but I will always be his first.
"Well, nobody sees them
At least, not together
She rarely goes out
She spends every day
Waiting for the day
When everybody finds out!"
Here Stevie is saying, nobody sees them together, 'cause they do it in the dark of the night, at least no one sees them together alone so they don't blow their cover. Next she's saying she rarely goes out and spends every day waiting for the day when everybody finds out, like say..she can't wait for the day when her book comes out that she's writing so everybody can find out that she's having an affair with Lindsey. yehhh!.
ANGIE speculates:
I agree mostly with what Heather speculates, but have a slightly different take on some verses. I definitely think it's about an affair between Stevie and Lindsey during the Dance tour. I think the first verse "we see no change in sight, watching her decline. She gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" is referring to Kristen. I would bet that she got on a lot of 'midnight planes' to 'surprise' Lindsey once she found out about Stevie and Lindsey's past, assuming she didn't know it was as heavy as it once was. If I saw as much chemistry between my man and another woman, as there obviously is between SnL, and I really wanted to keep him, I would try to keep close tabs on him as well. But K is wearing out, they are 'watching her decline'.
I think Stevie is telling Kristen that she knows Lindsey belongs to her, he adores her, calls her every day, and that she has him most of the time anyway, on tour.
"Maybe it's just something else that you can't tell me, maybe it's in the way you look away from me" is, I believe, about K saying to Lindsey, "Look, I know something's up, you won't tell me and you can't even look me in the eye".
"Nobody sees them, at least not together, she rarely goes out... waiting for the say when EFO" is maybe about K and L's relationship. Nobody really sees them together very much, do they? Because he's always with Stevie. Kristen's the one "waiting for the day when everybody finds out".
TIM speculates:
I think this song may have actually changed meaning over the years. I believe it was actually written some time ago and may have initially been written about Mick Fleetwood, but has changed meaning. It's the positioning of the song on the album that I find really fascinating. This is song #15, and is followed by "Destiny Rules" ("Maybe we are together - in another universe - maybe we made the whole thing up!"); then "Say Goodbye" and "Goodbye Baby" in which N. & B. each say good-bye to each other and show how deeply they really do love each other. I think in E.F.O. they intentionally "manipulate" people into thinking, "Oh my GOSH! They're STILL TOGETHER and NEVER BROKE UP!" Then they make clear that that's NOT true. So they're saying . . . "Don't be so quick to believe the, uhm . . . Rumours. You don't know what's true and what's not, and you don't know how we feel. No one knows, how I feel..."
I feel it's a brilliant song. Actually I think it's the first time Nicks has found "the genius switch" since Gypsy back in 1982 (although I love all of her music). I feel that this song intentionally places all her prior songs up for "reinterpretation."
STEPHANIE speculates:
I am going to have to go with the Christine/Linds affair. I mean, as in "The Dance" [Bleed to Love Her] they sure are staring the other down. What is that all about? Also, Stevie just seems out of connection with Lindsey on that song when they perform it. Usually they are the ones staring each other down. Also, at the beginning of one song... I forget which one, Stevie looks over to ?Christine? and shakes her finger at her. Hmm...?
Anyway... I wanted to break this song down lyric by lyric. So...
We see no change in sight
Watching her decline
She gets on a midnight plane
She's done it a thousand timesObviously... Christine's mood went from begrudgingly agreeing to an album to slowly, but surely declining it. It's been quoted on the AOL Sessions interview. Mick says something about her slowly backing out of it. That could be her decline. And, of course, as they have all done, Christine gets on a midnight plane a thousand times... leaving the group? Possibly?
When love starts out in the darkness
It doesn't do well in the light
Affairs of the heart
Start out in the dark
Usually stay with the nightSince the affair is only speculated, it must be in the dark if it's there at all... and since it never came to light, they must have been scared of the repercussions. The midnight plane also comes to mind when the night is
mentioned. Maybe that's how she saw Lindsey.I know you don't agree
(Every day you tell me)
I know you don't agreeAlthough good friends, I am sure Stevie and Chris had their disagreements. This is just one of many I would say. And who else would Stevie see every day?
I know he loves me
Every day he calls me
He says he adores me
What can I say?I agree that this would be what Chris would say. She'd just say it... and that would be it. Plus, since you never see interaction with L and Chris, it seems he would have some kind of distant crush/adoration/infatuation with Christine. He always did want what he couldn't have...
You can't love him
You can't have him
I do have him, most of the timeI believe Stevie would be saying this part--just as she would to any woman connected with Lindsey. She knows that no one will have him like she had him. Most of the time could be referring to throught the years... most of the years of BN and FM, they were still connected and in love... she certainly had him. Maybe it means that only every now and then Lindsey escapes his connection with Stevie to be in lust with someone else... in this case, it's Christine.
Anywhere we can
Anytime he can
Get away...get awayI'm not too sure about this one. Anytime he can... since this man obviously doesn't get much free time, it must be someone who has a packed schedule... Lindsey? And the singer of this song in the 'we' with this man must not have much free time either... Stevie?
Maybe it's just something else
That you can't tell me
Maybe it's in the way that you
Look away from meI believe this is in reference to both Lindsey and Christine. Both of them love Stevie very much and wouldn't want to hurt her by telling her, but they know that she knows and are ashamed. So, they look away.
It's not like any words
Need to be said
Well, you always know when something's wrong
My friendNo words are needed... have you seen the looks Linds and Chris share sometimes? Most of them are pretty hot and heavy. You always know when something's wrong... certainly Lindsey would... and 'my friend' shows up in a lot of Stevie's songs... maybe she is saying it out of anger that she and Lindsey have to be
friends, so she's kind of has a pun to it... angrily calling Lindsey her "friend." Or, it could be Chris she is referring to. I'm sure their relationship was close enough that she would know when something was wrong with Stevie... Stevie's pissed off at Chris... Chris knows it and Stevie wants Chris to know that "something's wrong" with what her and Lindsey have.Well, nobody sees them
At least, not together
She rarely goes out
She spends every day
Waiting for the dayHow many people have seen Chris and Linds out and about? They see them on stage, but not together. Stevie is the only one who sees it. She rarely goes out. Christine didn't like the publicity. She also always stays in the stage shadows with her keyboards. I'm guessing the spending every day waiting for the day
means Stevie is waiting, every day until the day that this comes out.Now... on the other hand, I could see this as being a Stevie/Kristen song... but we have no evidence (well, none that I know of) that Lindsey and Stevie were involved up until Kristen.
Clearly this song could be the battle cry of homewreckers everywhere. Stevie is at her most titilating lyrically with never a detail but all the frantic rantings of a crazy woman in love with someone else's man. Whom? Who cares? We do of course.
My gut instinct is that it's about Lindsey Buckingham but this could very easily be about Mick Fleetwood or somebody else close to the band. The line "she gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" brings to mind a touring schedule. When the routine of a long tour starts to take hold she finds that the same old feelings begin to resurface. "We see no change in sight, watching her decline" can be a metaphor for the late flights from city to city and the emotional breakdown of a woman whose love has been rekindled. The convenience of a late night booty call with an ex-boyfriend is an option not easy to deny yourself. It's rock-n-roll, there're no commitments in rock-n-roll. When the tour ends so does the romance. "When love starts out in the darkness, it doesn't do well in the light."
So once the routine takes it's toll, Stevie begins to wonder if maybe this could work out. "I know he loves me, everyday he calls me, he says he adores me, what can I say?". She's convinced she's doing the right thing, and this time it might work. "You can't love, you can't have him", the voice of reason is everywhere. Her friends, her family, her own subconscious is telling her not to do this again, he's married now, or they have kids now - whatever the reason, she refuses to listen. And she's not willing to miss the chance, "I do have him - most of the time. Anywhere we can, anytime he can get away." That's the most telling of this woman's guilt. The lyric isn't anytime "we" can get away, as in "we're so busy, if only we could get away", but anytime HE can get away...from her.
Stevie's always been very honest about her pain and her loss. It makes her music easy for her fans to identify with and relate. Well this time she's HAD IT. She's not singing about how sorry they'll be when they leave, she's not "all right" about letting go. She's ANGRY and she's going crazy thinking about what would happen if everybody knew what they were doing. Would it wreck this man's marriage? Would it hurt the tour? Would he take her back? "Affairs of the heart that start out in the dark, usually stay with the night." That's the lesson she's learned over and over again. So she's learned to accomodate him and like a willow she will bend. "Nobody sees them, at least not together, she rarely goes out." Has anything really changed at all? Alone or with him, she's finds herself back in the same place, spending everyday, waiting for the day when everybody
finds out.
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